ServetusM comments on Saudi women file petition to end male guardianship system - BBC News: "But the issue is, of course, how easily the system can be exploited to make women miserable and the lack of liberty should be intolerable for any sentient life. No human being should live under tyranny of another. But we can't look at it as simple brain washing. We also have to acknowledge that the system itself is probably desirable to women who have not been abused by it, and that other factors in society force the system to be needed (IE many of these places are also hot beds for tribal conflicts, like very severe gang violence, not so much in SA but for sure in Afghanistan). That kind of thinking can be hard to break if there is also a lack of experience about how fulfilling civic, and personal freedom can be. (Or you could believe all those stories that constantly tell us humans, mostly, don't give a shit about freedom. Most people will trade freedom for security and comfort in a heart beat--thinking like that, understanding that? Sheds a lot of light on this. .)
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